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Post by Bosco Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:52 pm

Because Johnson is good enough.
I say it every game Adam offers nothing and now without Lucas he is being shown up for what he is.
Not one player on that pitch apart from Bellamy and Reina can hold their heads up after that performance. But overall our squad isn't near good enough to be challenging for Top 4 let alone the title.
Kuyt has finally run out of steam and isn't even turning the same gears. he's never been technically gifted but always put in a good shift.
As for Maxi not being interested I can't blame him to be honest. He was shit hot form at the end of last season and the beginning of this and got dropped.
Adam isn't good enough, he doesn't turn a huge gear at all, doesn't work his bollix off. Can't play a 5 yard pass without fucking it up. and will go backwards more than anything else. Last game he messed up 3 backpasses HOW DO YOU DO THAT!. He is great at playing a hollywood ball have to give him that but thats it!.
You mentioned that he doesn't play a 3 man midfield, well that was clear today. Gerrard and Adam can never play together again both wanted to get forward far too much. Adam was suppose to be playing the holding role today and where was he for Reo-Cokers run? Chasing the ball and left the whole midfield open for nigel to have anice gallop. But it's not Adams fault he was played out of position it's Kennys. Oh and another thing about Adam he can't tackle for shit.

I'm always the first to shoot him down but I'm not alone. To be perfectly honest It makes me sick to my stomach to see him on the pitch in a Liverpool Jersey
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Post by moejoe54 Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:53 pm

i am swaying in favour of Chris here Thomas i think Adam has had one really good game for us since signing for us but all kenny's signing apart from enrique have not come up to scratch.
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Post by Barnes 10 Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:54 pm

Well ill be honest here in what im feeling.....

If Liverpool had of put in that "performance" under Woy it wouldnt be acceptable so why should it be accepted now? If this was under Hodgson there would be anarchy
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Post by Dallas Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:01 am

I'm just asking the question as to why the blame is heaped on Adam the whole time. He was poor today and absolutely no debating that. There are more players I've seen that have been poorer than Adam in games that he has been hounded and I just want to know why its always Adam.
I agree 100% about Adam/gerrard combo, but Adams natural position is higher up the pitch. Is that not a fault of the management team ?

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Post by Bosco Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:02 am

Dallas wrote:I'm just asking the question as to why the blame is heaped on Adam the whole time. He was poor today and absolutely no debating that. There are more players I've seen that have been poorer than Adam in games that he has been hounded and I just want to know why its always Adam.
I agree 100% about Adam/gerrard combo, but Adams natural position is higher up the pitch. Is that not a fault of the management team ?


It is 100% the Managements fault.
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Post by Dallas Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:05 am

Barnes 10 wrote:Well ill be honest here in what im feeling.....

If Liverpool had of put in that "performance" under Woy it wouldnt be acceptable so why should it be accepted now? If this was under Hodgson there would be anarchy

Exactly, that's why I posted it about Rafa and Roy.
We are delluded if we think twelve months is going to fully turn things around, but we should not have to see a performance like that. It's just not acceptable.
The biggest low I felt with Roy was that performance when we lost at blackburn 3 1, and this was no better.
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Post by Barnes 10 Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:10 am

We have a lot of average players, the football we are playing now is a 100% improvement on hodgesons era but good football isnt good enough for LFC no matter who is in charge
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Post by Dallas Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:13 am

Not today I'm afraid, and it will take another couple of top class players before we can be confident that it won't happen again.
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Post by Bosco Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:18 am

To see the money we spent on these players is disgusting tbh.
If I was FSG I wouldnt be quick to fork out more money
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Post by Barnes 10 Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:23 am

Bosco wrote:To see the money we spent on these players is disgusting tbh.
If I was FSG I wouldnt be quick to fork out more money

How much have FSG spent on players since they took over?
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Post by Dallas Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:25 am

Bosco wrote:To see the money we spent on these players is disgusting tbh.
If I was FSG I wouldnt be quick to fork out more money

Seems they won't be this window.

Should of had a striker at this stage if we had planned to replace Suarez and had true ambitions of reaching top 4. Maybe we will though before window closes.
Only the fact that arsenal and Chelski are having mares is still giving us a chance, and we should invest to capalise as it might be harder next season

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Post by Dallas Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:26 am

Barnes 10 wrote:
Bosco wrote:To see the money we spent on these players is disgusting tbh.
If I was FSG I wouldnt be quick to fork out more money

How much have FSG spent on players since they took over?

Net or total outgoings? I'm not sure either way, think something like 45m net
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Post by Barnes 10 Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:28 am

Dallas wrote:
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Bosco wrote:To see the money we spent on these players is disgusting tbh.
If I was FSG I wouldnt be quick to fork out more money

How much have FSG spent on players since they took over?

Net or total outgoings? I'm not sure either way, think something like 45m net

You sure?
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Post by Dallas Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:32 am

Wouldn't be no, seen a calculation along those lines in September.
Enrique Adam downing Henderson were major summer buys.
Can't remember how much Shit has gone and don't really thinking about it
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Post by Barnes 10 Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:37 am

Even if it was 45m do you think it was well spent???? If you were in charge would you give another £50mto spend given the way the last was handled?
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Post by Dallas Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:43 am

I asked that a good few posts back about FSG releasing funds.

At the end of the day, it will come down to them trusting Kenny and Damien with their money.
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Post by Barnes 10 Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:53 am

What im asking is..... would you?
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Post by Dallas Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:59 am

Id give them my last cent if I owned the club
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Post by Bosco Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:01 am

according to the commentator tonight it was near 100m
Carroll last Jan =35
Adam=7.5
Henderson=16(going to 20)
Downing=18.
Enrique=5.
Coates=Undisclosed(reported to be 7m)

Granted we got 50 back off Torres
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Post by Bosco Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:02 am

Dallas wrote:Id give them my last cent if I owned the club
As would I and every other supported the difference is, they're in it for the money and we're fans
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Post by Dallas Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:05 am

Bosco wrote:according to the commentator tonight it was near 100m
Carroll last Jan =35
Adam=7.5
Henderson=16(going to 20)
Downing=18.
Enrique=5.
Coates=Undisclosed(reported to be 7m)

Granted we got 50 back off Torres

Add Babel and Suarez to that list and couple million we got for others it would seem about 45m net.
Not that that has much to do with anything
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Post by Barnes 10 Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:06 am

Bosco wrote:according to the commentator tonight it was near 100m


Granted we got 50 back off Torres

Is he the only one that left for big money since they took over?
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Post by Bosco Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:15 am

Well getting 1.5m for Konchesky is big money in my eyes Laughing
Babel=8m
Poulsen can't find a figure
Insua-5m(rumored)
Ayala(gutted we sold him and kepy Wilson)=800k
Jovanovic=free
Soto=free
Ince=free
Pacheco=Loan
Ngog= 4m?
Merieles=12m(rumored)
Degen=Realeased(poor guy had a soft spot for him)
Bijev=Loan(youngster bought and then loaned out)
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Post by Dallas Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:17 am

Barnes 10 wrote:What im asking is..... would you?

Dallas wrote:Id give them my last cent if I owned the club

And would you ?

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Dallas wrote:Id give them my last cent if I owned the club
As would I and every other supported the difference is, they're in it for the money and we're fans

Can only answer the question asked
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Post by Barnes 10 Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:20 am

So how much have they invested in team?
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